Depth Podcast

Episode 40: Inspiring Story– Grace Wabuke Klein

Today, I cannot wait for you to hear my friend, Grace Wabuke Klein as she vulnerably shares her story. She will open your eyes to what it was like for her to grow up in America as an African American woman.  I love that she is helping raise awareness in the tone of hope.  Grace also shares 4 practical steps to help us move toward unity from the Good Samarian parable.  I promise you do not want to miss her wisdom.

In addition, I highly recommend you reading Grace’s powerful story by decade on Instagram @gracewabukeklein.  I know her posts will inspire you to want to lean in and better understand racism.  Honestly, I cannot wait to read Grace’s entire story in her soon to be released book, The Neighbor Next Door.

Lastly, Grace shares about flourishing in the winter season. Being single for two decades before meeting her husband, Grace shares what God revealed to her about Depth.  Honestly, it is one of my favorite parts of our conversation.

Book Recommendations

  • * Humility by Andrew Murray
  • * The Third Option: Hope for a Racially Divided Nation by Miles McPherson
  • * Be the Bridge: Pursuing God’s Heart for Racial Reconciliation by Latasha Morrison

Grace and her husband lead focus412, a ministry that helps churches grow. Previously, she was on the pastoral staff at Faith Church in West Covina, California, for more than 15 years. She received a bachelor’s degree from the University of California, Berkeley, and a Master’s in Intercultural Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary. 

Some fun facts about Grace: when she’s not exploring a fascinating country around the world, she is taking on new home improvement projects, seeking adventure ski diving or scuba diving, trying a new restaurant, enjoying hot yoga, completing marathons and a sprint triathlon. She recently married the love of her life, Phillip Klein and is blessed with two adult daughters, Philecia Klein and Paige Straarup, and a son-in-law, Brad Straarup.

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Episode 39: Blessings Brokers– Danya Jordan

Have you ever had an “in awe of God” moment?  A moment where God showed up big and exceeded your expectations.  I like to call these Ephesians 3:20 moments.

Today, I cannot wait for you to hear my conversation with Danya Jordan.  We talk about how we first met which happens to be one of my “in awe of God” moments.  We also talk about giving today.  I have found that many times, our Ephesians 3:20 moments happen after we faithfully say yes to God and give our time, money, or resources. Giving is so important.

Friends, I love Danya’s heart for giving! She has been helping others reach their God sized vision for 26 years.  I am excited for you to hear about Blessings Brokers as well as her passion for God’s Word!  I know you are going to be blessed by what she shares especially when she talks about the book she is co-authoring, Lavish.

I promise you that you do not want to miss this episode.

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Danya Jordan, founder and President of Blessings Brokers, loves serving as a Christian Donor Development consultant. She formerly served as Proverbs 31 Ministries Executive Director of Donor Development. With 26 years of nonprofit leadership, she is passionate about working together to prayerfully equip, empower, and encourage God-sized visions to become reality.

Danya teaches a ladies’ Sunday school class at her church and sings in the praise band. Her mission statement is “You Shine!” based on Matthew 5:16. She loves to Bible teach, write messages that make a difference, motivate, equip and empower leaders, kayak, spend time in the North Carolina mountains, and laugh with family and friends.

You can connect with her at as well as @blessingsbrokers on Instagram and Facebook.  You can read her blog on as well as connect with her @danyamjordan on Instagram and Facebook

Episode 38: Moving Forward— Christa Hutchins

Do you have a God-sized dream?  Do you sometimes struggle with how to move forward in your dream? 

Today, I cannot wait for you to hear my conversation with Christa Hutchins.  We discuss her book, *Moving Forward: Inspiration for the Go-Getter Jesus Girl.  I think you are going to love her 4 steps to help you get unstuck as you pursue your God-sized dream.  I love all her practical steps and insightful ideas.  Her advice on overcoming doubt is my favorite part!

I promise you that you do not want to miss this episode.

I reference a blog post called When Doubt Creeps In.  Here is the link to read it.

Also, I am so excited for someone to win a copy of Christa’s book,*Moving Forward.  All the details of the book giveaway are on my website at 

Christa Hutchins uses tough grace to equip busy communicators and leaders with project management and problem solving skills so they can turn their big ideas into a successful ministry or business. She is passionate about teaching women to find practical application of the Bible in their personal, professional and ministry lives. Christa lives in south Louisiana with her husband in their delightfully empty nest. Visit her at to connect and download free resources.

Episode 37: Father’s Day — John Brownlee

With Father’s Day just around the corner, I am excited to have my dad, John Brownlee, as a guest on the Depth podcast this week.  I asked him to share some of his words of wisdom and best advice as he is a father to 4 girls and a grandfather to 7 grandchildren.

I don’t want to give away any spoilers, but I love that my dad shares some of our funny memories and crazy dinner activities as well as encourages other dads to make their kids a priority.   I am so thankful that my dad was an intentional father to me and my sisters.

I recommend listening to this episode along side your spouse or if you are a single mom like me, there are still lots parenting nuggets in this episode for you as well!  I believe parenting is the most rewarding and challenging job all at the same time, so I hope this episode encourages you along your parenting journey!

Episode 36: Garden Tales: A Seed’s Story — Brandie Muncaster

How do you see yourself?  How do you see others?  Do you see yourself as a beautiful creation of God?  Do you also see others as God’s beautiful creation? How we see ourselves and others is so important.

This week on the Depth Podcast, Brandie Muncaster shares with us her new children’s book: *Garden Tales: A Seed’s Story.  Her book focuses on who we are in Christ. Through the seed’s search for her identity and the Gardener’s gentle and loving answer, Brandie reminds us that God sees all of us as beautiful and that He made each one of us for a purpose.

This children’s book is phenomenal!  I know as you read the truths in this book, it will touch your heart just as much as your kids and grandkids.  Knowing we are God’s beautiful creation as well as seeing others the way God sees them will be life-changing.  Remember we are all His Masterpiece! 

Also, I am so excited for someone to win a copy of Brandie’s book, *Garden Tales: A Seed’s Story.  All the details of the book giveaway are on my website at or you can click on the book ministry tab in my profile.  

Brandie Muncaster is a wife, mother to three beautiful children and author of the brand-new children’s book *Garden Tales: A Seed’s Story.  Brandie started writing because she has a passion for helping people discover what it means to live and walk in their true identity.  She and her husband have been married over a decade.  Some of their favorite things to do as a family to pass the time are playing sports, spending time at the beach and the mountains, doing puzzles and playing scrabble.  They happily reside in Charlotte, NC.  You can connect with Brandie at

Book Recommendations: *Boundaries by Townsend and Cloud *How We Love Our Kids by Milan and Kay Yerkovich

Episode 35: 41 Will Come — Chuck Tate

Today, I cannot wait for you to hear my conversation with Chuck Tate as we discuss his book, *41 Will Come. The number 40 is a significant number in the Bible; it usually involves a time of waiting or testing.  Chuck points on in his book, that the number 41 is also significant.  For example, the people of Israel wandered the wilderness for 40 years and on Year 41, they entered the Promised Land.  Jesus was tempted and fasted in the desert for 40 days and on Day 41, He launched his ministry.  The breakthrough happens on Day 41 or Year 41.

Are you in a season of waiting?  Is life hard and you want to give up?  Chuck’s book encourages us to hold on and stand strong, your 41 Will Come!  Friends, you do not want to miss our conversation.  We discuss the story of David and Goliath and how Goliath taunts the army of Israel for 40 days. I love that David enters the picture on Day 41.  Cannot wait for you to hear all the nuggets of truth we can learn from David’s example.  It is one of my favorite parts.

Chuck Tate is the award-winning author of 41 Will Come (Tyndale Momentum) and the founder and lead pastor of RockChurch, a growing and thriving congregation in the heart of Illinois.  He also hosts a LIVE weekly podcast (41 Strong) and contributes for and North Central University Magazine.   He has been featured on the international television show 100 Huntley Street and multiple national radio shows and podcasts, including In The Market With Janet Parshall (Moody Radio).  Chuck and his wife, Annette, are the parents of Savannah (15) and Ashton (12).   You can connect with Chuck on his website:

Episode 34: Special Mom Story — Jamie Brownlee Turgeon

This week, my sister, Jamie Brownlee Turgeon shares about her two special mom roles as well as encourages all of us to be an influencer in a child’s life.  Whether you are the biological mom, adoptive mom, stepmom, aunt, grandma, or mentor, we all have a significant impact.  I love that Jamie challenges us to be intentional and purposeful.

First, Jamie shares about how she influences my kids as their much-loved aunt.  I am thankful that she has been an important motherly figure to my kids as she loves on them, encourages them, and gives them advice. We talk how my kids would make her a special card for Mother’s Day letting her know how much we appreciate her.  If you have a woman in your life that pours into your kids, I highly recommend honoring her on Mother’s Day.

Secondly, after my sister got married, Jamie became a stepmom to two amazing kids. I love how she shares about her impact in this important “bonus mom” role.  She is also honest about the ups and downs of being a stepmom and shares some resources that helped her along the way.

Lastly, we will talk about ways we can encourage and come along side women in both of these special mom roles. We definitely try to tackle some of the hard questions.

Friends, one of the main goals of this special mom series was to remind all of us that we all have an important role.  We have the privilege to encourage and influence a child; what a honor to be a motherly figure to them!  I want to you to know that I am cheering you all on in your “special mom” story, and I pray you are intentional in the kid’s lives that you are impacting.

Recommended Book: *My Bonus Mom

Episode 33: Special Mom Story — Allison Chambers

This week, Allison Chambers shares her foster to adopt story. I love how God placed on her heart this calling to help foster babies. What started as only a desire for emergency placement quickly changed as both her and her husband attended the foster training classes. With three boys at home, they knew in their heart, God was calling them to adopt one more.

I just love their faithfulness in taking the next step.  Allison honestly shares the ups and downs of foster care as well as her road to adoption.  She encourages all of us to get involved by either taking classes or coming along side and supporting foster families.  Love her practical ideas of how we can help!

Friends, you don’t want to miss this beautiful story of how God blessed them with sweet Judah.

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Episode 32: Special Mom Story — Monty Stepura

This week, Monty Stepura shares her adoption story.  It is beautiful to see God’s provision as she shares each part of her journey. Honestly, it is amazing to trace His hands and fingerprints in each and every detail of her life.  Friends, her story is powerful, and you do not want to miss these special God moments!

In addition, Monty offers encouragement and hope to women considering adoption.  She shares some of her favorite books that helped her along her journey as well as some helpful Scripture verses.  I love her wisdom and insight!

Monty Stepura is helping others through her mentoring ministry. She loves to support Christian Women with a genuine interest in being Mentored though the Adoption process in any or all of the following areas:

  • Choosing an International vs Local Adoption
  • The benefits of choosing an Open vs Closed Adoption
  • What to expect during the Home Study Process
  • Writing an effective Dear Birth Mother Letter
  • Preparing for your baby’s arrival in less than 9 months
  • Meeting Other Adoptive Parents
  • Telling Your Child He/She is Adopted
  • What to do when your own health is compromised during the adoption process
  • Resources and support for the journey

To express interest or for questions about the Mentoring Process, you can connect with Monty by email at or message her on Instagram @mhstepura or Facebook- Monty Harding Stepura

Books Monty recommended:

  • Precious Bible Promises by Nelson Publishing
  • The Power of Encouragement by Jeanne Doering
  • Encouragement for the Adoption & Parenting Journey by Rachel Garlinghouse and Madeline Melcher (a weekly devotional)
  • Hope for the Adoption Journey: 28 True Post-Adoption Stories to Comfort and Encourage by Katherine Piper  (Stories from twenty-eight women with very different circumstances who have adopted and fostered children, both domestic and international, of various ages and backgrounds, with a wide range of needs—and who have endured to share their joy. All profits will be used to help prospective adoptive parents bring their children home.

Episode 31: Special Mom Story — Allyn Ann Simpson

This week, Allyn Ann shares her infertility story.  Through 10 years of ups and downs, 5 IUI cycles, 4 endometriosis surgeries, and 6 IVF procedures, Allyn Ann honestly shares her emotional journey to having 2 miraculous IVF babies.  You don’t want to miss her powerful story.

With Mother’s Day just around the corner, Allyn Ann and I also talk about how we can come along side and help someone walking this hard road of infertility. I love her practical ideas as well as what to say and not to say.

Lastly, if you are walking this hard path of infertility, let me first say, I am so sorry. I believe Allyn Ann’s story will encourage you and remind you that you are not alone.  She also offers great advice about finding a support group and giving yourself lots of grace.  I hope her words offer you hope and encouragement.

To connect with Ally Ann and hear more about her foundation, Defiantly Hopeful, go to her website: 

Allyn Ann and her husband, Jeremy, are passionate about building families through IVF.  It was out of their personal experience that they started their foundation to help make IVF available to couples who may otherwise not be able to build their family through this amazing technology.  They plan to give out 2-4 IVF grants a year. 

You can also follow along on Facebook and Instagram @Defiantlyhopeful to see the latest grant information and locations coming in the future.

Episode 30: Inspiring Writer — Becky Beresford

Today, I talk with Becky Beresford, a fellow Hope Writer and friend. I love her passion for helping women embrace their worth. Her Brave Women Wednesday Series is my favorite! Each week, she highlights a different women’s story of God’s faithfulness as they find hope in the middle of loss, strength during times of uncertainty, and courage to combat fear and anxiety.  I cannot wait for you to hear Becky’s heart to help women find their true identity as God’s daughters! Honestly, it is my favorite part! 

Becky Beresford lives in Huntley, IL and is happily outnumbered by her husband and three wild boys. She is a writer, dreamer, certified life coach and speaker with a Master’s Certificate in Discipleship from Moody Theological Seminary. Becky loves encouraging God’s Daughters to embrace their holy worth and live life fully loved. When she isn’t at the keyboard, you can find her dreaming of sandy beaches, serving mamas in church and hanging with her people. She would love to connect with you online at, where you can grab a FREE copy of the Brave Woman Manifesto: Five Things to Tell Yourself When Life Gets Hard. Feel free to follow her and the weekly Brave Women Series on Facebook | Instagram | Twitter.

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Episode 29: It’s Not Supposed to Be This Way — Lysa TerKeurst

Today, I talk with Lysa TerKeurst about her book, *It’s Not Supposed To Be This Way.  I don’t know about you, but I have found myself saying those exact words a lot lately due to the Covid-19 virus.  With graduations and weddings cancelled, many people are walking through a season of disappointment. Lysa shares some helpful tips on how to handle disappointment as well as some profound truth when you feel shattered. You do not want to miss what she reveals about dust. Honestly, it is my favorite part.

Lysa TerKeurst is the president of Proverbs 31 Ministries and a #1 New York Times best-selling author of *It’s Not Supposed To Be This Way, Uninvited and twenty-one other books. But to those who know her best she’s just a simple girl who holds fast to God’s truth and speaks about hope in the midst of her own struggles. Lysa lives with her family in Charlotte, North Carolina. 

Connect with her at or on social media @LysaTerKeurst.

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