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Episode 55: Be Still Devotional — Sarah Westfall

Have you ever looked at the circumstances of your life and said, “This is Not My Story- this is not the narrative I would have written for my life?”  I know that I have. 

This week on the podcast, Sarah Westfall, shares her personal “Not My Story” with us.  As she vulnerably shares about the loss of her son, Sarah describes how God met her in the middle of the grief.  She wanted to quickly move past the pain, but instead God spoke in her heart and said “Be Still. Stay. Rest in Me.”  This moment in time birthed a devotional called *Be Still: Leaning into God when Everything is Falling Apart. Sarah invited other writers to join her, and I love that God is the consistent thread that runs through all the devotionals.   

Sarah is the host of the Not My Story Podcast as she invites others to share their unexpected story and how God showed up in the middle of the grief.  If you are walking through the Unexpected, Sarah wrote an ebook called Interrupted just for you.  We talk about it on the podcast and you can download it on her website:

I promise you do not want to miss what Sarah shares this week.

Also, I am so excited for someone to win a copy of Sarah’s devotional: *Be Still: Leaning into God when Everything is Falling Apart. All the details of the book giveaway are on my website at or you can click this direct link:

Sarah E. Westfall is a full-time writer, speaker, and host of Not My Story, a conversational podcast about faith and the unexpected. She holds a BS in English Education and MA in Student Development Counseling, and her past work includes teaching and serving as a student life professional on college campuses. After experiencing the loss of her son almost a decade ago, Sarah invites readers into a life of authenticity and deep communion with God and with each other. Her work has been featured in RELEVANTFathom Mag, and The Joyful Life Magazine. Sarah calls Indiana home, where she lives with her husband Ben and four sons.

You can connect with Sarah at or on Instagram @sarah_westfall & @notmystorypod


I am so excited to part of the Life on Purpose Summit! The goal for this summit is to encourage you in purposeful faith!

For 5 days, starting November 2nd, writer/speaker Katy Epling is bringing together teaching and resources from 18 speakers and authors who have found their identity and purpose in God. You’ll hear about everything from faith & family to healing from heartbreak & loss to ministry & handling the overwhelm of everyday life—and more. For example, I’m going to be talking all about Hope for the Hurting Heart!

The best part? It’s totally free!

Here is a link to get your free ticket for the Life On Purpose Virtual Summit today! Life on Purpose Registration Page

You can also get your hands on the All-Access Pass for a reduced price right now of $17!

With the All Access Pass you’ll get Summit Recordings in case you cannot watch them live, VIP Speaker Bonuses and more.

Check it out here!  Life on Purpose All Access Pass

Episode 54: Inspiring Story — Kirsten Casillas

This week, Kirsten Casillas shares with us her Epic Redemption Story. These words captivated me as she described how God was redeeming her story.  Do you believe that God can redeem your heartbreak?  I believe this is God’s specialty. He takes our greatest heartbreak and turns it into our greatest ministry.

October 15th is Pregnancy and Infant Loss Remembrance Day.  In honor of this special day, I have asked Kirsten to share her story of Chloe Faith and how God is redeeming her loss with the birth of Blooming Faith Ministries.  I hope her story can encourage someone else walking through a similar heartbreak.  

Last week, Kathe Wunnenberg shared her story of infertility, multiple miscarriages, and the loss of her baby boy in Episode #53. What makes her story so powerful is that she is not wasting any of her pain, but instead she is allowing God to use it to help others and spread hope. Her book, *Grieving the Child I Never Knew was one of my life changing books as I walked through my miscarriage.  I am so excited that we will be giving away a copy of her book this week on the podcast.  You can click on this direct link for details:

Last year, I also honored this special day with a two-part episode on pregnancy loss. In Episode #5: I shared my personal story of losing Baby Grace along with a friend who shared her story of loss.  We both went to the Empty Arms Support Group at our church which was pivotal in our healing. In Episode #6, I talked with Dr. Shari Bridgeman who wrote the curriculum for Empty Arms after she personally walked through multiple losses.

I hope these episodes will encourage another hurting heart.

Kirsten Casillas is a wife, mom, and freedom fighter. Her passion is seeing women walk in the freedom and power we already have.  She lovingly and boldly invites women into a deeper conversation with themselves, their story and God through her monthly online workshop – Mending the Soul, social media and in-person speaking events.

Kirsten lives in Orange County where she home-schools her 5th & 2nd grade daughters. She serves at Mariners Church where she found healing, calling and a tribe of Soul Sisters. You can connect with Kirsten Casillas on social media and her website

Episode 53: Hopelifter — Kathe Wunnenberg

Are you a hopelifter?  “Hopelifters are people who have been transformed by their own experience and grief and who are now willingly offering themselves as the hands and feet of Jesus to comfort others hurting hearts.”

Kathe Wunnenberg is a hopelifter! This week on the podcast, Kathe will share about her book, *Hopelifter: Creative Ways to Spread Hope When Life Hurts.   She will also vulnerably share her story of infertility, multiple miscarriages, and the loss of her baby boy just hours after he delivered.  What makes her story so powerful is that she is not wasting any of her pain, but instead she is allowing God to use it to help others and spread hope.  One of my favorite ways she does this is her Hope on Wheels Special Mother’ Day trip for grieving moms.  I cannot wait for you to hear about it on the podcast.

Kathe’s book, *Grieving the Child I Never Knew was one of my life changing books as I walked through my miscarriage.  I love that this book has special devotionals to read on the hard days like your due date or Mother’s Day.  Honestly, this devotional is a big part of my story, I cannot wait for you to hear how it birthed my book ministry.  Another one of my favorite parts.

I promise you that you do not want to miss this episode! 

Also, I am so excited for someone to win a copy of Kathe’s book, *Hopelifter. All the details of the book giveaway are on my website at or you can click on this direct link:

We will also be giving away a copy of *Grieving the Child I Never Knew next week on the podcast.

Kathe Wunnenberg is the founder and president of Hopelifters Unlimited.  She is a speaker, writer, leader, and connector known for her ability to offer creative solutions for real life problems.  The author of “Grieving the Loss of a Loved One and *Grieving the Child I Never Knew, Kathe lives in Phoenix, Arizona with her family.  You can connect with Kathe at

Episode 52: Scribbles — Chris Simning

Do you ever wrestle with God?  Do you ever struggle to understand why you are walking through difficult circumstances? Chris Simning understands.  In 8th grade, his whole world changed when he was stricken with a rare nerve and muscle disease. 

This week on the podcast, Chris vulnerably shares his powerful testimony from his new book,*Scribbles.  I promise you do not want to miss one word, especially when he shares how God revealed His calling for his life through his challenging circumstances.  This is my favorite part.

I first met Chris at Hume Lake Christian Camps my senior year of college, and I was immediately in awe of Chris’ joy for life and love for Jesus while at the same time living with a physical disability.  The beautiful thing is that he does not let his disability define him. Instead, he is speaking a powerful message of hope in the middle of brokenness. 

I encourage you to lean in and listen to Chris’ inspirational message.

Also, I am so excited for someone to win a copy of Chris’ book, *Scribbles. All the details of the book giveaway are on my website at or you can click on this direct link:

Chris Simning is a remarkable storyteller. He has a personal story to share that is timeless and compelling, endearing him to people of all ages. What captivates his audiences worldwide is not just his voice, but rather the manner in which the Lord uses his platform to share about the reality of brokenness, the provision of God in the midst of it, and the resiliency of the Gospel message in what may be deemed tragic. His hope in Jesus has ignited a passion in Chris to speak about the experience of finding purpose in the midst of a life filled with challenges and how God can bring healing to the wounded of heart even in the worst circumstances.

Chris is not a disabled speaker but a speaker who just so happens to have a disability. His story provides hope in a world that seems bleak and encourages people who need to be inspired by the faithfulness of the Lord, who is with us even when His presence is not felt. His zeal for the Bible, not to mention his humorous personality, is contagious. Chris speaks to churches, retreats, and youth conferences nationally as well as internationally.

Episode 51: Loved & Cherished — Lynn Cowell & Michelle Nietert

This week, I talk with Lynn Cowell and Michelle Nietert about their book, * Loved & Cherished: 100 Devotionals for Girls.  I love that this devotional reminds girls of their identity in Christ. They are loved, cherished, and God’s unique masterpiece!  These are foundational truths that are important to instill in girls at a young age, so they can remember them through the teenage years.  Honestly, I think we as women need to be reminded of these same truths. 

I love that Lynn and Michelle are giving a copy of their devotional to a girl in foster care when you buy a copy of *Loved & Cherished!  This offer is for the first two weeks of their book launch, so this amazing offer ends Sept 22nd so please act fast.  More details about it on the website for their book:

Also, I am so excited for someone to win a copy of Lynn and Michelle’s devotional for girls, *Loved & Cherished. All the details of the book giveaway are on my website at or you can click on this direct link:

Lastly, Lynn and Michelle host a podcast together called Raising Brave Beauties. It was created for moms and daughters to listen together. But I think if you are influencing a girl through church or as a grandmother, aunt, or family friend, I think it would be beneficial for you too. I plan to listen to it with my nieces.

I cannot wait for you to hear all about this devotional on the podcast this week; I promise you that you do not want to miss the truth Lynn and Michelle share!

Lynn Cowell is part of the Proverbs 31 Ministries’ speaker and writing team. As the author of several books, written for women of all ages, her newest book is: Loved & Cherished: 100 Devotionals for Girls. Lynn calls home North Carolina, where she and her husband, Greg, and the occasional backyard deer are adjusting to life as “just us”. Along with their three adult children, the Cowells love hiking, rafting, and anything combining chocolate and peanut butter. You can connect with Lynn at her website: or on facebook and Instagram @lynncowell

Michelle Nietert, M.A., Licensed Professional Counselor Supervisor has been providing therapeutic interventions to children and their families in counseling offices for over 20 years. A recognized expert in Solution Focused Therapy, she is the clinical director and owner of a large counseling center in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. Michelle’s writing can be found on the MOPS blog, in Lifeway’s Parenting Magazine and she is the Mental Health columnist for Just Between Us Magazine. She also joins her audiences in the parenting trenches as a happily married mom of two school-aged children. To discover her Counselor Thoughts blog and podcast providing Solutions for Life, please visit

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Episode 50: Love-Powered Parenting — Tom & Chaundel Holladay

This week, I talk with Tom and Chaundel Holladay about their book,*Love-Powered Parenting. Tom is one of the teaching pastors at Saddleback Church and Chaundel speaks at Treasured, a bible study for young moms. I first read this parenting book at Treasured when my kids were much younger. I recently have read it again now that my kids are older, and I believe the truths they share can apply to all ages from toddlers to teenagers. 

I love that this book centers around looking at parenting through the lens of love. Today we focus on my two favorite parts of the book: the power of your priorities and the power of your words. I love the practical tools that Tom and Chaundel share as well as their wisdom from raising 3 children and now 6 grandchildren.  Having them both on the podcast was such a joy!

I promise you do not want to miss this episode.

Also, I am so excited for this week’s giveaway of their book,*Love-Powered Parenting.  This giveaway is special and unique because when you win, I will send you two copies of this book: one for you and one for a friend!  How awesome to win a book for yourself and one for your friend this fall!  And there is even more, I will be giving away 5 of these special twin sets!

All the details of the book giveaway are on my website at or you can click this direct link to the Book Giveaway. Friends, you do not want to miss your chance to win this amazing parenting book for both you and your friend!

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Tom and Chaundel Holladay have three children and six grandchildren and have served together at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California for almost thirty years.

Episode 49: Fear Gone Wild — Kayla Stoecklein

This week is National Suicide Prevention Week and the podcast is discussing Kayla Stoecklein’s new book, *Fear Gone Wild: A Story of Mental Illness, Suicide, and Hope Through Loss. If you are not familiar with her story, sadly, her husband, Andrew, died by suicide two years ago. Now, Kayla has become an advocate for mental health by spreading awareness and offering hope as she vulnerably shares her story.

Suicide and Mental illness are not discussed much, so I am thankful to Kayla for helping give voice to this important subject.  She shares the myths of suicide and how to help someone walking through depression. She honestly talks about her wilderness season and how God has helped her thrive even in the middle of it. Lastly, she gives an amazing illustration of grief and pain to help those who are walking through loss.

I promise you do not want to miss the truth she shares.

Also, I am so excited for someone to win a copy of Kayla’s book,*Fear Gone Wild. All the details are on my website, or you can click direct link below:

In August of 2018, Kayla lost her husband, Andrew – pastor of Inland Hills Church in Chino, California – to suicide. In the wake of the tragedy, she embarked on a brave journey to better understand his harrowing battle with mental illness and, ultimately, to overcome the stigma of suicide.

With a clear-eyed acknowledgment of how misguided and misinformed she was about mental illness, Kayla Stoecklein shares her story in hopes that anyone walking through the wilderness of mental illness will be better equipped for the journey and will learn to put their hope in Jesus through it all.

You can connect more with Kayla on Instagram @kaylasteck or her website at

Book Recommendations:

Episode 48: Even If Not — Kaitlyn Bouchillon

Do you believe God is good even when He doesn’t do what you hoped He would do?  Can you trust Him in the messy middle?

Today, I talk with Kaitlyn Bouchillon about her book, *Even If Not: Living, Loving and Learning in the in Between. Kaitlyn vulnerably shares her personal “Even If Not” story as well as her love for the ampersand, the & sign!  Many of us are living in the ampersand, the in between. Talking with Kaitlyn about living in between broken & mended was honestly my favorite part. Her words from that chapter touched my heart.  She said, “When we let God do the mending, Broken Things can become Blessed Things.”  Love this!

Kaitlyn has turned this quote into a beautiful piece of artwork with a cracked and broken tea cup.  She has offered to give away a print of this amazing quote. I am excited for someone to win this in addition to a copy of her book.  All the details are on my website, or you can click on the direct link:

Kaitlyn Bouchillon is a Virtual Assistant, book launch manager, storyteller and (in)courage contributor who writes about not only discovering God’s goodness in the ordinary, but His faithfulness in the difficult. If you’re facing a chapter in your story that you wouldn’t have chosen, you’ll find hope in Kaitlyn’s vulnerable and honest book, Even If Not: Living, Loving and Learning in the in Between. For more encouragement and dozens of free resources (beautiful prints and lock screens!), visit or follow Kaitlyn on Instagram.

Book Recommendations: *One Thousand Gifts by Ann Voskamp

Episode 47: Special Behind the Scenes — One Year Birthday Celebration

Today is an exciting day!  The Depth Podcast is One Year Old!  

I am so excited for this special Behind the Scenes Birthday Celebration Episode! I cannot wait to share with you the God moments from this last year. I am in awe of God as I see His hand guiding the podcast episodes, the timing of when they release, and the winners of the book giveaways. One story is so special that it can only be explained by God orchestrating all the details. His timing is truly remarkable!

Also, I love talking with my friend and accountability partner, Erin Riddle.  We met years ago in Treasured, a Bible Study for young moms at our church.  We had so much fun as she asked me your questions from the survey.  I hope you enjoy learning a little bit more about me!

I promise you do not want to miss this special behind the scenes episode!  Hearing the amazing God moments over this last year is honestly my favorite part!

Thanks for all your support and encouragement this past year!  I am so looking forward to digging deeper this next year!

Love, Jodi

Episode 46: JoyKeeper — Suzie Eller

Today, I talk with Suzie Eller about her book, *JoyKeeper: 6 Truths That Change Everything You Thought You Know about Joy. Suzie is my first guest to be on my podcast a second time, and I love her vulnerability to share all that has happened in her life since we last talked in the fall.  Walking through some hard family circumstances, Suzie has been living out the message she wrote in her book: “Joy is not a feeling. It is a Knowing.”  I cannot wait for you to hear all the wisdom she shares as well as some of our favorite Joy Keeper vs. Joy Stealer statements.

Also, I am so excited for someone to win a copy of Suzie’s book, *JoyKeeper. All the details of the book giveaway are on my website at and you can click on the book ministry tab for details.

If you missed my first conversation with Suzie about her book, *The Mended Heart, please check out Episode #7 on the Depth podcast.  I love what she shares about brokenness.

Suzanne Eller (Suzie) is a bestselling author. She is co-host of the More Than Small Talk podcast with KLRC Podcast Network, which debuted in the top 25 Christian podcasts. Suzie has appeared on media such as Focus on the Family, Aspiring Women, The Harvest Show, KLOVE and many others. She served with Proverbs 31 Ministries for 14 years. She believes that healed women scoop up other women and run toward the cross. When she’s not writing, you’ll find her kayaking, hanging out with her “littles,” finding the best foodie food truck, or hiking. Connect with Suzie at

Exciting News!! The Depth Podcast is celebrating its one year birthday this August and I want to hear from you, my listener.

I would love for you to take my Depth Podcast Survey. It should take only 5 minutes to complete. After completing this entire survey, you will automatically be entered into a special giveaway happening at the end of August on my celebration episode!

Episode 45: Inspiring Writer — DJ Hejtmanek

This week on the Depth Podcast, I talk with DJ Hejtmanek, a fellow Hope Writer who loves to help others discover their unique calling. She believes it is foundational to know God as well as know how God designed you specifically.  Helping women understand their identity in Christ is one of her passions.

She is also passionate about helping others grow in their faith!  After developing a strong foundation, she loves to equip women by teaching them biblical principles that help them connect the dots spiritually.  Honestly, this is my favorite part of our conversation. 

DJ Hejtmanek is passionate about equipping women to walk in freedom, to discover who they are and fulfill their calling in Christ. She is a development professional, currently raising funds for an international Christian organization. DJ has worn many hats in addition to fundraising – magazine editor, wife, radio broadcaster, blogger, Mom, public relations spokesperson, community college administrator, children’s book author, Bible teacher, JoJo’s dog trainer, “Dovie” to five little girls, and licensed minister. Her website/blog can be found at She is on Instagram @djhejtmanek and Facebook @knowingyourgod. DJ and husband Louis have been married 38 years, live in Broken Arrow, OK, and have two married children and five beautiful granddaughters living nearby. 

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